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"DAVID MIERS is reported to be in the top 10 cage fighters in Gosford. He has some serious dish washing skills and thinks that Elizabeth Bennet is hot. Although he thinks that his wife Rowena is hotter. David works in youth ministry for a great church. Likes to: speak in third person, watch and play soccer, eat food and surf the web. He has never watched Star Wars."

Jesus died because I suck

This is part 2 of our www.iagreewithdale.com series. Go check the website for other videos and show your support for the extraordinary things that Dale says.

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  • Blogger David Castor says so:
    Thursday, August 02, 2007 3:09:00 pm  

    I can understand what you're trying to communicate David, but with all due respect I don't think you are presenting a healthy or balanced message. In "The Future of Evangelicalism", Alastair Macgrath suggested that evangelicalism suffers from a guilt-tripping culture. I don't deny for a second that I am flawed and fallen, but I'd suggest that this truth needs to be balanced against the truth that Jesus died because he believed I was worth saving. top

  • Blogger Dave Miers says so:
    Thursday, August 02, 2007 3:49:00 pm  

    we probably disagree on the cross and what it achieves.

    this video isn't trying to pick up ever single aspect of the cross.

    besides - i'm pretty uncomfortable with Jesus dying because I'm worth saving. i'm not worthy to be saved... understanding my unworthiness and the state in which i was in when Jesus died - actually magnifies Jesus and God's incredible love for one like me.

    Romans 5:8

    Ephesians 2 says that it's because of God's mercy and love that he acted not because of anything good in me worth saving.

    Soli Deo gloria top

  • Blogger David Castor says so:
    Thursday, August 02, 2007 4:58:00 pm  

    I'm not saying that you have earnt your salvation - I am saying that you are considered as a being of immeasurable worth by God. Do you really think that God worth send his Son to save something He believed to be intrinsically worthless? top

  • Blogger Duke says so:
    Thursday, August 02, 2007 5:19:00 pm  

    we are intrinsically sinful, which isn't a good thing top

  • Blogger Dave Miers says so:
    Thursday, August 02, 2007 9:56:00 pm  

    i don't think saying:
    "i'm bad"
    "i suck"
    "i'm no good"
    (insert you're own vernacular)
    is denying our worth as creatures made in the image of God.

    The fact that we are sinners magnifies the love of God expressed in the cross. top

  • Blogger David Castor says so:
    Friday, August 03, 2007 9:27:00 am  

    I can understand that, but I think it is always necessary keep the idea that I am flawed and fallen in tension with the knowledge that we are wonderfully and fearfully made and beings of infinite worth. By emphasising one over the other, I believe that we get a distorted message. top

  • Blogger Dave Miers says so:
    Friday, August 03, 2007 11:30:00 am  

    watch episode one.

    it spoke about about how we are made by Jesus and for Jesus. top